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The Gotherington embankment collapse Q&A


article by: Ian Crowder & Darren Fairley
posted on: 21 August 2010
updated on: 22 November 2010

Services suspended … for now! (Photo: Ian Crowder)
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Darren Fairley, properties director, answers questions on the Gotherington embankment collapse (Photo: Ian Crowder)
Darren Fairley, properties director, answers questions on the Gotherington embankment collapse (Photo: Ian Crowder)   Click to view larger version

Fascinating view of Winchcombe station in 1904 when under construction.  The accusation that the railway was built ‘on the cheap’ is unfounded: however, if the line was built today very different techniques would be used. Behind the station building you can see one of the ‘steam navvies’ that were used for major earthworks on the railway, such as the cuttings approaching Greet tunnel. (Photo courtesy STEAM Collection)
Fascinating view of Winchcombe station in 1904 when under construction. The accusation that the railway was built ‘on the cheap’ is unfounded: however, if the line was built today very different techniques would be used. Behind the station building you can see one of the ‘steam navvies’ that were used for major earthworks on the railway, such as the cuttings approaching Greet tunnel. (Photo courtesy STEAM Collection)   Click to view larger version

You only need to look at the comments on Gotherington slip news items to see that many people have views about how it should be tackled as well as questions that the event naturally raises.  Here Darren Fairley, properties director of the GWSR, offers some frank answers to many of the questions that have been asked over recent weeks.  This is necessarily quite a long document so if there are particular answers you want to see, click on the link and it will take you straight there…

 

Why has it taken so long to start work - after all the slip happened in April?

Given our railway is prone to slips and it's not that long since the major Cheltenham event, it's important to have a full understanding of the causes of this catastrophic collapse, how best to repair it and most important, how to prevent anything like it happening anywhere else on our railway in the future.

We have a different priority to the national network.  Back in BR days, a self insuring company, a slip would occur (and they weren't and aren't uncommon), lots of resources would be thrown at it and the hole filled with what was readily available to make a temporary repair so that the  public service was up and running again as soon as possible.  A more permanent repair could then be carried out at an appropriate time when there was minimum disruption to trains. 

We have a different priority.  We're not self insuring and don't have the same kind of resources.  We have a responsibility to ensure that what we do to repair the slip is for the long term and also meets our insurance company's requirements.  We don't have the funds to do a temporary repair to get up and running and come back later and do a more permanent fix.

Today, even on the national network sections of track will stay closed longer and the actions we are taking is just the same.  A geotechnical survey helps us to understand the root cause of the problem.  A civil engineers' survey and assessment will suggest the best possible repair solution for the best possible price for the long term.

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Why not at least have a go at repairing the embankment ourselves.  We have some experienced civil engineers on the railway who could surely do a good job?

Safety is our priority, 'having a go' at something so serious and significant is not an option. 

We wouldn't just 'have a go at' at something as serious as a boiler repair which also has to then be professionally certified, we would use experts at every stage to ensure a lasting, effective and safe repair.  So why compromise on something that supports 400+ tonnes of rolling loads with the general public on board, when all of the indicators show we have a bigger problem in wait under the surface?  Patch repairs in BR days have clearly failed now and adding to it will only store up more problems for the future so it is right and proper that it is fully investigated and the work properly planned.

Railway earthworks and geotechnical engineering are not the same as civil engineering.  They go together of course, you need them all and not just one.  Some of our own excellent engineers have been retired for a while and have even said themselves that they are not up to date with modern solutions - which can be cheaper, quicker and last much longer.   

We don't have the luxury with something this big to 'just have a go'.  What is visible is just the outward indication of much more serious problems below the surface - a bit like an iceberg!.  The whole embankment is on the move over a distance of 250m and in places over 7m high, with a two track railway on top.  

I have personal experience of dealing with slips all through my 20 years on the national network, and I have always found something unexpected when having gone at something without getting the latest assessments and research - and that always costs both time and money.

If we were to have a go ourselves (and there will be occasions in the future when we will!), who then maintains the rest of the railway and keeps what we have operating going - we have a lot to keep us busy and of course, it's growing all the time.

To take a metaphor:  If part of your house subsided, after having paid in all your insurance premiums - even if you had a mate who was an experienced builder, would you get him to do the repair or would you use a specialist company recommended by the insurer?  If your house is professionally repaired but the house still fell over five years later - you wouldn't have to worry as the repairs are insured as well. Much the same with our railway.

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Telling the insurers means that everyone will charge twice as much.  If you go to a garage after an accident, they ask: 'is it an insurance job?'.  Surely if we organised it ourselves we could have done it cheaper?

Cynical and sometimes true, but I can assure you that in this case it is most definitely not true.  Everyone involved - including our insurance company - knows that we do not have cash to splash around and we are ensuring that where possible local companies are on the tender list so prices are competitive.

As noted in another answer, having looked after work on the national network, where insurance is not in the process gives a good reflection of what others are charged for such work and we are really getting value for money - everyone that we are taking to is looking for ways of reducing costs and providing value for money.  They know we are a volunteer organisation.   

One other thing to consider is that the insurance premiums we have historically paid out in the past wouldn't have paid for Cheltenham, never mind Gotherington. Trying to do it on the 'cheap' would have exactly the opposite effect!

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Why can't we just dump new material on top of the embankment to restore it?

Yes we could but…… the result of the geotechnical surveys clearly shows that large sections of the embankment are slumping and moving in different ways.  So it s a bit like nailing a jelly to the wall, it can't hold itself up let alone support more load.

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The slip is on the run-round loop.  Why don't we just abandon that, make up the running line shoulder and run single-track?

What is evident is that the sheer fracture of the embankment has appeared in the centre.  Therefore we have to take out sections of the main line to re-instate its structural integrity.  As soon as we start work the face of the fracture will crumble and will not support the main line - in any case, the shear fracture is vertical and is right next to the sleepers of the running line and it won't support the weight of a train.  We also have to 'step in' the new construction into the main line support that has not moved (yet) and therefore most of the top section has to be removed, filled and compacted and treated with stitching materials (geotextile frabic) to give added strength.  Singling the line will make no difference to the cost of the repairs.

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Are we going to do the repair fully with the double track bed restored, or would it be cheaper to restore just to single track?

What ever we do the same amount of material needs to be taken out and this is where the majority of the cost is, including disposing of the ash fill.

The replacement fill and new profile of the embankment in the grand scheme of things will only save about 10 per cent of the costs but will stop us from ever double tracking in future.  In the long term, if the money becomes available, should we not re-instate our railway to is full potential?  Take the house analogy - if it were a three bedroom house and one of the rooms was seriously damaged, would you settle for a two bedroom house to save a few pennies short term?

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I know a couple of civil engineers and discussing the land slip they too are puzzled why it is taking such a long time to repair. They, like me think it is more a lot about money not civil engineers' time to repair.   Are you informing us of all the facts.

We have brought in a large number (all with time and effort) of independent engineers from all manner of backgrounds but familiar with heritage railway maintenance, construction and operation. 

Any civil engineer will ensure that before making a full assessment they would want all the facts and information available - it is very easy to say 'I can do it better' without having all of the facts in front if us.  We have not made all of the information available to everyone as it is simply not manageable and not concluded as yet but as some readers have acknowledged, we have been as open as possible.

One think I think is worth mentioning at this point is that the insurance company is actually paying for an independent check to the design and solutions being out forward - that is their money out of their pocket, but reassures them that we are doing the job proberly!

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Outside contractors have a vested interest in putting in high bids once insurance companies are involved. This is not rocket science, it is a clay embankment. It is perfectly possible to repair this slip with the railway working to an engineers brief, just as we did at Cheltenham Race Course. You could probably knock a zero off the bill by doing this...

See also previous response about contractors costs. 

I think it is fair to say that Cheltenham is a fantastic job.  Everyone saw the state of the damage beforehand (the damage to Gotherington is just as severe - just that the loop track is hiding it and there are further problems beneath the surface).  And the Cheltenham repair has held fast and is well respected in engineering circles.

It was designed and managed in exactly the same way that Gotherington is being done and by the same engineers.  The actual work was tendered and undertaken by contractors in the same manner that we are proposing at Gotherington.

Most importantly because of the way Cheltenham was managed and repaired the insurance company have been much more confident that we have the ability to repair the railway to a good standard.

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Isn't this a problem that has been storing up for ages through lack of maintenance of culverts and drainage - surely someone should have sorted the drainage out before now?  Haven't we brought this on ourselves?  

What we have is a railway that is 100 years old.  We are finding that there is a number of things that are affecting the drainage which, in the main, is ceramic pipework along the boundary fence line.  The ground has moved over the years and the pipework has settled but not all is accessible or visible.  As vegetation is brought back under control we have a better idea of what is happening with the drainage that we couldn't see before and the way the water drains off the nearby ridge and furrow land also changes with time.

The most proactive way is what we are doing already.  Where we have visible or known problems we are targeting them in the budgets we have, we continue to survey the line as we clear, and where we know it will be some time before the vegetation gang get there we are monitoring as best we can.  This is also the case on the extension up to Broadway, so we are prepared in advance.

The drainage at Gotherington was in this year's budget, but the cold minus-18 degree freeze caused significant damage that was just not visible, exactly where the old BR repairs were carried out. In fact, BR simply loaded the embankment and put a gabion wall at the bottom to try to stop it slumping.  In fact, the embankment slump has moved around the wall and is also pushing the gabions over!   

With respect to the culverts, they are not a problem at Gotherington, we will not be inserting any new ones, simply improving the drainage that leads to them.  It should also be noted that we have significantly more culverts than were on the drawings we inherited by BR.  We have found and repaired a number of culverts that were not on the BR records and will no doubt continue to find more as we extend to Broadway - but we do maintain the culverts. 

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What is the first job to be done?

Drainage. 

Re-designed with modern materials and with future maintenance in mind.  Why should we carry on digging out ditches every five years, for the sides to slump into it with all manner of other detritus, when we can put in a flexible pipe (inspection covers at 20m or so intervals) and a blanketing material that stops the large amount of silt from blocking it up.  This design has proven extremely effective at Cheltenham and Gotherington South (one side only) as pilots and we now have a design that we can use elsewhere and give us more time to not worry about going back to dig out and get on with something else.

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What can our volunteers do - for instance, could we save some money by doing the drainage on the Cotswold side?

To get us ahead of the maintenance game, I would rather we as volunteers concentrate on the next drainage priorities.  We are going to batch up and make savings with our contractors on a number of drainage jobs close to Gotherington whilst they are there so that we can move forward a year or so ahead of our plans and prevent and stop any other potential problems.

We want to get to a point where we are no longer just tackling the known places where we can already see a problem developing but continue to replace the drainage where there are no signs of problems now, but could be in the future.

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What are the current projected timescales?

Drainage work is about to start (late August 2010).

We have put out tenders for the main work based on the design work so far carried out (most of it is now done).  We expect the major work to start by October and provided the funding comes in over and above the insurance claim payment, it could be ready for reopening in May.

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Have we considered getting rid of the embankment and putting in a viaduct?  Wouldn't that solve the problem for good?

The costs of such a structure would be astronomical.  However the consulting engineers have looked at a range of solutions and we will now be using a combination including soil nailing and geotextile membrane, as well as excavation and rebuilding of the most seriously affected sections.  Not every potential solution suits the local underlying geology.  But rest assured, attractive as it might be to look at, a curved viaduct is not a practical or cost-effective consideration!

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What about other embankments - the railway has plenty of them, where else could there be landslips in the future?

The one thing I can be sure of is that there is potential for further slips.  But with the appeal going forward we will have a much better budget to press on with drainage work, will be better able to prevent and predict where we might have problems in the future and get to grips with something that GWR and BR coped with through the whole life of our stretch of railway.

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Does this mean that the railway was built 'on the cheap' in the first place and we are beginning to reap the consequences - after all, they had trouble building the viaduct by trying to rush the job…

Would we build the railway the same way now? No!! But back then they were using what was cutting edge technology: in fact ours was the first to use such a level of automation (so-called 'steam navvies' - huge rail-mounted excavators).  But there was still a significant amount of human labour - even with the advent of the mechanical age, human 'navvies' bore the brunt and horses were still used for musclepower. 

But as is evident from Gotherinton, they didn't scrape off the soil surface or indeed even the existing vegetation to help key the embankment into the ground.  They just dropped the clay straight on top.  As a result there is an 'organic layer' of soil, grass and vegetation that is preserved under the embankment.  There are even seeds down there - we've retrieved some and we'll see if they grow…century-old grass!  But that organic layer doesn't help when water permeates through the structure.

As railways go, we have more than our fair share of structures.  If our line isn't on an embankment, it's in a cutting.  What's more, there are probably over 100 structures that cross over or under our line, most of them culverts, as well as two tunnels and a viaduct.  It's a century-old challenge that we accepted when we bought the route - and one we must maintain to the highest possible standards!  These features are attractive to our customers of course but they also present challenges in terms of maintenance.

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As the job is going to take a long time, couldn't we move the run-round loop at Gotherington and concentrate on getting to Laverton - at least we will then restore the railway more or less to its pre-landslip length and will at a stroke cut the cost of all the topping and tailing of trains.

It is one of a number of ideas that is being looked into.  We have had some great ideas and responses submitted to us and the Board is looking into a number that would or could present opportunities for something new for our customers and get more 'bums on seats' whilst we are cut short on the main running line.  Both of these ideas are being seriously considered - indeed, we have already authorised the Permanent Way department to press on with the Laverton extension and to get the run-round loop there in place.

However some ideas will cost more money than they save short term, so each is having to be looked at separately and as with everything else, time and effort will be spent as wisely as possible. 

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Can you give a breakdown of what is going to happen and what each phase will cost?

See the separate article on this website which shows how the work is being broken down into seven separate work streams.

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We continued to run over Cheltenham slip before the work started, why not at Gotherington? 

The slip at Cheltenham was a different scenario.  That slip was not as close to the shoulder of the running track and before every train we had to inspect the slip for movement.  The Gotherington slip has already taken out the first section of track and is right against the shoulder of the operating line, but in the deepest part of the embankment.  Even without trains running we have at times been able to actually watch the embankment settling down. It would simply not have been safe to run trains.

Whilst it was a hard decision to stop running services when we did, I'm glad that someone didn't have to be in the position of watching the trains running over the affected area and make the decision at the end of each day on whether to repeat the process again tomorrow.  The risks were just too great.  Having a train coming of the rails and possibly falling down the embankment is just unthinkable - it would close us down and have a serious effect on the rest of the railway movement.

Safety comes first.  Full stop.  I am totally certain that we have taken the right decision for the right reasons and that we have not taken any unnecessary risks in the process.

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Is everyone on the railway being properly briefed?

I wish I could have gone round a few more departments and briefed out what we are doing and why but of course we are all volunteers, most of us have 'day jobs' too.

It would be great if we could share all the information that we have gathered with all the shareholders, members and departments as it comes in.  But the nature of such information is that as it comes in, decisions have to be made and second opinions sought to arrive at the best solutions - passing on everything would simply put out conflicting and confusing messages.

We have tried to keep everyone informed on this website and this Q & A is an example of how open we are trying to be.  We welcome questions still, of course, you can use the feedback form at the bottom.

Suffice to say we do have some of the best brains in the business at work on the solution and we will undertake the repair to the highest possible standards so that the Gotherington embankment is never a problem for our successors over the next 100 years.  The board's interest is to take decisions that will keep our railway operating for the long term and secure all work at the best price whilst at the same time, continuing to maintain the operational railway.  I have no doubt that the rest of the railway industry is watching us closely and already, we have earned respect nationally for the professional approach we have taken. 

All that will stand us in very good stead for the future and underlines that on the GWR, we do things properly, safely and with the interests of our volunteers and customers very much in mind.

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Glossary of terms

We've used a few terms in our descriptions of what's happened at Gotherington in our various articles so hopefully the following might help to clarify what we mean!

Geotextiles - Robust permeable fabrics that can come in a range of forms to suit different terrains.  They filter, reinforce and protect soil surfaces and are today widely used in earthwork construction, repair and stabilisation projects - for example railways, airport runways, road projects, dams, reservoirs, protecting erosion along canals, rivers and estuaries.  Once installed, they still enable grass and other light vegetation to establish itself and thus blend the material into the environment.

Soil nailing - a technique developed in France in the 1970s and now widely used throughout the world for civil engineering projects.  It has proven to be an extremely effective way of stabilising and increasing the shear strength of soil slopes such as cuttings, embankments and retaining walls.  Holes are drilled and slender threaded bars inserted, usually with expanding 'plugs' (a bit like DIY wall plugs that firmly secure screws in a wall) that lock the bar into the surrounding soil. The bore surrounding the rod is then grouted which prevents corrosion and large nuts are used to secure the bars against large plates (or 'nail heads') on the slope surface which tie in to geotechnical reinforcing grids where appropriate to complete the repair.  These are easily confused with, but not the same as, ground anchors which are grouted up hard and tight and tie sections of rock etc. together where they have become unstable.

Shear face - the line of fracture within the soil of an embankment failure.  Usually follows a vertical line, curving out as the face descends, leading to complete failure of the embankment.

Geotechnical research or surveys - carried out by geotechnical surveyors, the objective is to obtained detailed information about the makeup and properties of soils and rock beneath the surface, in order to enable foundations or earthwork failure repairs to be designed that provide the best solutions for the local conditions.  The work involves both surface and sub-surface exploration.  Subsurface exploration involves drilling boreholes, extracting materials for laboratory analysis and inserting instruments to measure earth movement, moisture content etc.

Culvert - a channel built beneath an embankment or other structure to drain water or carry a stream.  The railway has a large number of them particularly where the line runs close to the limestone Cotswold escarpment to carry water run-off through the embankments which would otherwise act like a dam.

Ridge and furrow - a method of farming dating from the Middle Ages in which the ridges were formed by the method of ploughing then used.  The typically corrugated land surface results from the type of oxen-drawn non-reversible ploughs which worked in the same way year after year, which tended to pile the soil up into fertile ridges, while the furrows aided drainage.  Earliest known examples date from immediate post-Roman times and it was most recently employed in the 17th century.  It is visible where there has been no ploughing since - for example where the land has been used for livestock - and can be seen on a number of fields adjoining the railway.  It is relevant to the Gotherington slip because water tends to follow the furrows.  The embankment is built over corrugated land which can still be seen on the Cotswold side and these corrugations still pass at an oblique angle beneath the railway.  The furrows have allowed water to permeate the embankment soil.

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9 comments for “The Gotherington embankment collapse Q&A”

  1. Gravatar of SteveSteve
    Posted 21 August 2010 at 21:57:00

    Thanks- very informative

    I visited our line with my son today and we bothe thoroughly enjoyed it s usual. Can't wait to travel to Laverton next year.

  2. Gravatar of BillBill
    Posted 22 August 2010 at 08:57:37

    Well done Daren, I think your answers are very well presented. Lets hope we can raise the extra money as soon as possible.
    Bill

  3. Gravatar of SimonSimon
    Posted 22 August 2010 at 09:55:53

    Excellent answers. A joy to see such an open approach to discussing the problem and its solution.
    I noticed an oblique reference to ballast.
    Is overloading the track with ballast a possible extra cause which other railways should note

  4. Gravatar of Nigel HawkinsNigel Hawkins
    Posted 22 August 2010 at 10:28:40

    Daren,Thanks for being open and honest,excellent answers to a difficult problem.How you fit this in with your day job beats me,but that is what volunteers do.

  5. Gravatar of James GreenJames Green
    Posted 22 August 2010 at 21:17:13

    This website is a credit to the GWSR and leaves many other more flash and modern heritage railway websites in the shade. This article embodies the characteristics that render this site so user-friendly, interesting and informative.

  6. Gravatar of AndyAndy
    Posted 24 August 2010 at 08:40:21

    Well done again GWR! This is the kind of informative and open page that preserved railways cry out for and so rarely get. By answering questions fully and openly you bring or keep supporters onside and minimise the corrosive mutterings of dissent that plague so many other railways (including mine). This page should be a template for any preserved railway undertaking major works of any kind.

  7. Gravatar of Darren FairleyDarren Fairley
    Posted 25 August 2010 at 21:21:16

    Many thanks for your comments, we will continue to do our best to keep things updated where we can.

    I too would like to thank Steve George and those associated with keeping the website up to date and always improving its quality. Very hard work goes on behind the scenes, keeping it regularly updated and clear indeed and allowing us to keep everyone as updated as possible. Many thanks.

  8. Gravatar of Alan WalshAlan Walsh
    Posted 26 August 2010 at 11:31:23

    Well done Darren an impressive and professional approach that will pay dividends in the long run. Quick fixes rarely pay off.

  9. Gravatar of Darren StevensDarren Stevens
    Posted 27 August 2010 at 17:52:03

    It is very sad that Cheltenham is going to be out of action for so long, but credit to you all that this is being done so thoroughly and with excellent communication.


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